Thursday, February 16, 2012

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I have  received some suggestions to read the essay from this 

 Link: http://orihimelovesichigo.tripod.com/essay1.htm

          And since I still receive the same suggestions recently,I thought it would be better if I post my response for this particular essay,so that everyone won't be repetitive ^.^

So,here goes...

DISCLAIMER : I don't own anything,all the images and translations,I found them everywhere?Sorry,I couldn't remember all the links,as to where I get them,but most of them comes from BLEACH Asylum. 

No Romance in Shounen?

         I completely agree that most of the shounen types of stories does  have romance in them,so no argument here.Besides,the author have already listed some shounen mangas that have romance,so I don't need to do the same thing

What we know about Tite Kubo’s Influences?

I just want to add something,about KT's quote here...


“I get asked about that a lot! I don't want to make Bleach into a love story because there are much more exciting things about their personalities and things that they can do instead of getting into the romance aspect of their relationships.”

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            What KT's words meant is...the romance part wouldn't be the focus of the story.Didn't he said,that he didn't want to make BLEACH into a "Love Story?". Love stories are focusing on the romance part,while shounen doesn't focus on this part of the story,but it doesn't mean that there is actually no romance at all,it is just not the focus.

            Probably,this quotes from KT are the thing that made some people think,that there would be no romance in BLEACH.

Another quotes from Kubo sensei are the following... 


"I don’t really intend to make it a romantic story, but it’s one of the aspects of the series, so I put it in here and there."


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May I repeat his quote?
 "I don’t really intend to make it a romantic story, but it’s one of the aspects of the series, so I put it in here and there."

            I highlighted the word "IT" to emphasize the said word,which is obviously the ROMANCE part of the story,that KT sensei was talking about.He said that he didn't want it to become a romantic story,but IT is one of the aspect of the said series,so he puts IT here and there.It is very simple not to be able to understand,it comes from his own mouth (Kubo Tite) the author of BLEACH.He did said that there is romance in the story,so...really...it's so amusing to see people saying that there's no romance in BLEACH,because it was SHOUNEN, (¬__¬). Even without giving some examples of SHOUNEN mangas that have romance,it's clear that BLEACH definitely have romance in the story,since the author said so,no argument at all.This is the reason,why I just couldn't stop sighing every time I see,some non shipper that kept on saying,that there was no romance in BLEACH,because it was SHOUNEN,and because KT said that he didn't want to turn it into  a Love Story,and wants to keep it as SHOUNEN as possible,ignoring the other half of his statement,that directly says that there is romance,and it is one of the aspect of the series.

NOTE : If you are not one of those non shippers that kept on saying this,don't get affected,since I am only talking about those that does it,so....peace ^.^V

            I guess,for those who are claiming as non shippers,their argument should be "will Ichigo end up with someone?" This could mean as something like,Ichigo might really fall in love with someone,but for some reason,he couldn't be with her. This argument is way better than saying that there's no romance,because it was SHOUNEN.However,if they really don't care about this matter,there's no need for them to say this.

Now, taking into consideration he said this stuff two years ago, his mind may have changed on the direction that he was going. There were only 33 volumes out. When asked about the Orihime X Ichigo X Rukia thing, he might have not told the truth because it’s within the plot. What author/mangaka in their right mind would tell the fans what he plans to do! If he came out and said either couple, his manga sales would drop.
  
            True that no mangaka would tell those stuffs,and spoil everything,but I don't think he have changed his mind. 

Anyways,I just want to tell something about this...

Next, Rukia has slowly fallen from the picture and has become a secondary character where as Orihime‘s presence has doubled and then dropped after chapter 356 with a minor flashback in chapter 379. There are hints from Aizen about Ichihime after Volume 33! These scenes take place after Tite Kubo’s interview!

            Since when did Rukia became a secondary character,and Orihime's presence doubled has anything to do with the romance part?And what hints are those that comes from Aizen?However,I guess the author was talking about the number of their appearances,rather than the impact of their appearances in the manga.

I think Kubo realizes that the biggest audience for his manga in America is Girls/Women between the ages of 14-30. So, he not only has to give demand to people in Japan but all over the world. Girls/Women like love stories. He might not pick a couple but he will sure insinuate at it to keep us guessing and buying. Let‘s not forget, men are human too and they feel things just like women, even though most of them won’t say it.

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            I don't think KT have changed his mind,just because of this,and like I said,KT's quote didn't mean anything that he doesn't want to put some romance in BLEACH,he only means that it wouldn't be the focus.

            Apparently,saying that KT might have changed his mind about the romance part,and implying that Rukia is falling from the picture,and doubled Orihime's,and having some hints from Aizen,I can say that the author is saying that KT might be planning an Ichihime end pairing.Even so,saying this stuffs could only mean,that KT is getting influenced by what the fans wanted,you know,expecting to have some romance in the story,some end pairing to be precise.In that case,I could say that he'll go with the Ichiruki's,since most of the BLEACH fandom are supporting the Ichiruki pairing,so,why would he go for the Ichihime,which have a very few number of supporters?If he is that so easy to be influenced by the fans,there's no way that he'll go with the Ichihime pairing.Saying that he might reconsider having an end pairing to please the fans,then surely,he'll go for the most popular,right?

Why are so many people (Mostly Girls) obsessed with IchiRuki, IchiHime, Ichi and Whoever or Orihime and Ulquiorra or OriGrimm ect ect?

In fan-fiction, the writers tend to chose couples that are not based on love, but hate. Its simple as: “Well, these two don’t get along, they must love each other. Look, they’re pummeling the crap out of each other.” That, in reality is a sick and twisted view of love. 

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            First of all,they are just FICTIONAL characters.Secondly,even in real life,there are romantic relationships that starts from this kind of interactions,and it's definitely not anything like a sick and twisted view of love.Mangas are just exaggerating the beating part for comedic aspects,and it's definitely funny,no matter how some people refuse to admit it.If the person is familiar with reading manga stories,no,not only in the mangas,but as well as Japanese dramas,anime and movies,this kind of behavior,shows that those characters are comfortable and they are close with each other.This "That, in reality is a sick and twisted view of love." is just an individual perspective of LOVE.

Rukia and Ichigo are fighting half the time and calling each other names the other half of the time. (People like this, they think its funny.)

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            As far as I know,this is just a part of the reason why people tends to like this pairing,because it shows that they are being true to themselves when they are together.Most of the reasons why people support this pairing,is because of their whole relationship developments.Gaining trust,caring,understanding,and having an effect towards each other,that is way stronger than their relationships with anyone in the manga.Another thing,they aren't always bickering,rather,they are always teasing each other.Ichigo teasing Rukia with her love for bunnies,and Rukia getting angry and beats him,are just one of the examples of this scenes in the manga.The usual times that Rukia beats up Ichigo,is when he was emoing,and teasing her because of her drawings.On the other hand,Ichigo never fights back at her,he'll only yell back,but he won't hit her,unlike what he usually do,with his other nakamas.

Anyways,this statement means that this pairings...
 



NOTE : Lots of them are even more violent,bicker and calling each other with names,more often than Ichigo and Rukia does.

            ...and a lot more,are all an example of "SICK AND TWISTED kind of LOVE"?However,though some people might not like this kind of relationship,there's no doubt that they are all indeed,the CANON COUPLES of the story.Whether people like or dislike this type of relationships between couples,still,there are way lots of people who finds them cute and lovable.Whether Ichiruki will become a couple or not,despite them having some haters because of their way of interacting with each other,everything will still depend on Kubo sensei's own perspective of romance to prevail.

Renji always tries his best for Rukia. (People seem to hate this)

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             I don't think,it is the reason why some people hates Renji.I believe some people hated him for leaving Rukia's side,and for letting her join the Kuchiki clan.Anyways,not all people hated him,it's just normal that there would be haters and some that loves something,it can't be helped,just like some people hates Rukia with Ichigo,Ichigo with Orihime,Orihime with Ishida,etc.This matter doesn't have any difference.In any case,I thought this topic would be..."why do people are obsessed with this pairings?"

Orihime’s sole purpose is to be there for Ichigo. (People call her a stalker because of this)

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            Apparently,it's really hard to be unbiased.Anyways,Orihime is definitely not a stalker,if anything,this isn't the reason why people doesn't like her (maybe some people just like to say something bad about her).Based from what I've seen from the fandom,it seems that her character earned a lot of haters,after her "cry for help" towards the guy that she claimed to love for five lifetimes.Even so,I have a different POV about that particular moment in the manga.Read here

            Again,I thought that the topic would be about "why people are obsessed with this pairings" yet,the author have only mentioned a partial reason,as to why people like Ichiruki,and not all the reasons why they love them (Ichiruki). The rest of the pairing like Renruki and Ichihime are all about,"why do people hates their pairing",though there are also some people who hates Ichiruki for the same reason that he/she have mentioned,as to why people love them as a couple (he/she "the author" among them). Like I said,no matter how good something is,there would still be some people who would hate it/them,it's a common thing in life,so why focus your attention with the haters,it'll only make you feel bad.

Ichigo doesn’t give a crap either way because he’s oblivious toward Rukia. (He must love her because he doesn’t acknowledge it: NOT!) Ichigo toward Orihime, he’s 99.9% of the time kind to her and super-considerate of her feelings. (He’s gentle toward her. But, it still doesn’t mean a thing.) Let’s not forget, he’s naive, so he slips up. (People automatically believe Ichigo is with Rukia thinking he must be faking his naivety.) Nope, he really is romantically stupid. But, his feelings seem to have a softer touch with Orihime.

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            Everyone is gentle with Orihime because of her demeanor.Actually,Ichigo is naturally kind and a nice person,that's why,he shows POLITENESS towards Orihime,because she is a very POLITE person.Orihime never argues with anyone,and she never does things to purposely annoy anyone,most especially,with Ichigo,so there's no reason for him to be harsh on her.

            If anything,there's a blatant confirmation from the manga itself,as to who is the one that Ichigo treats nicely more than anyone.

remember this?

 
            Tatsuki is the one who knew him since they were just a kid.Even though she might not knew somethings about him,there's no doubt that she can definitely see the differences from Ichigo's way of interacting with other people,including his nakamas.There,she was saying that Ichigo is so nice to Rukia,and she have never seen him like that before.Meaning,even compared to his behavior towards her and Orihime,Ichigo is much nicer towards Rukia.Though,someone might say that it was because she helped him a lot,especially,in protecting his family,you need to realize one thing....that is the beginning of his evolving/growing fondness towards Rukia.

Ulquiorra and Orihime: Come on people, she slapped him through the face! (People seem to like this because he mentally tortured her.)


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            I'm pretty sure,that people who likes this pairing,knows it very well,that it was just a crack pairing,no need to say such thing about this pairing at all.And most importantly,the reason why some people like this pairing,is because of the idea that Orihime gave him a heart.That reason is so lovely.

Orihime and Grimmjow: Grimmjow is very rough and mistreats her after he saves her life. The only reason he saves her from the female arrancar - it was for his arm and number. (Again, people like this because there relationship is based on his volatile anger and rage toward Ichigo and his roughness toward Orihime.)


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            Again,people who support this pairing,knew that it was just a crack pairing.They just like them,based from their own perspective of romance,just like the author and everyone does for their ships,right?

Rukia: She had/has feelings for Kaien Shiba! (Because of this, people feel that she deserves Ichigo. Ichigo only looks like Kaien Shiba! He is not Kaien Shiba! You just can’t replace someone that precious with a copy.)

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            I highlighted the phrase because,I saw some people saying the same thing for the Ichihime.They like Ichihime because Orihime loves Ichigo.Now,for the reason why some people thinks that she deserves Ichigo,because he looks like Kaien,I'm pretty sure that argument there is...Rukia might see Kaien to Ichigo,that's why she might develop a feelings for him.However,not all of them thinks the same way.For some reason,I felt like the author was generalizing things,or was it just me?


Cannon couples in Bleach.
 
First of all, there are only a few known couples in Bleach. They are Kaien X Miyako, Gin X Rangiku, Byakuya x Hisana, and Masaki x Isshin. Those are the Cannon couples.
 

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           No argument here.

What about the Anime? It Counts!

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            I don't count the anime,because,just like US,they didn't know as well,as to what Kubo sensei was actually planning with his characters.

Why Rukia and Ichigo in a relationship is Bad?


Rukia and Ichigo form a relationship based on love, it would end up hurting the group dynamic. Orihime would not fight it if they chose this route!

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            It's just the best way to do in Orihime's part,since she won't be happy being with the man that doesn't have the same feelings with her.

The thing is, so many characters already know what Orihime’s feelings are toward Ichigo that their friends would hate him for it. Tatsuki, Rangiku, Renji, and Ishida would be upset and would not easily get over it.

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            Ichigo is also their friend,though Tatsuki is Orihime's best friend.If they are true friends,they'll respect his decision,as long as they knew that he's being honest with his feelings.They might feel sorry for Orihime,but they knew that she'll just suffer even more,if they forced Ichigo to chose her,though he doesn't feel that same towards her,especially,when he loves another woman.He might be there beside her,but his heart and soul doesn't belong to her.

Tatsuki: Friends with both Orihime and Ichigo. She would chose Orihime’s side because they are closer. Next, she knows Orihime’s feelings for Ichigo and because she is a girl, she would be more apt to feel pity for Orihime’s broken heart.

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            Tatsuki might feel pity for her,but if Ichigo doesn't love her,I'm sure she'll help Orihime to recover from her unrequited love.

 
Renji: Loves Rukia and would hate Ichigo for taking her away after he worked so hard to mend their relationship.


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            Renji is very respectful with Rukia,and if he truly loved her,he'll respect her decision.Again,forcing someone that doesn't feel the same way with you,will only make you suffer even more.The person who's in LOVE,is willing to sacrifice everything for their beloved,even their own happiness,no...their happiness,is to see their beloved happy.
 
Rangiku: She is good friends with Orihime and after hearing Orihime's confession, she would chose to protect Orihime’s heart.

 Ishida: Would pick Orihime’s side, especially since he knows she has feelings for Ichigo. He would not want her to be heart broken and he would be angry at Ichigo for breaking her heart.   
And none of this would matter, even if Orihime stepped aside. They would form their own opinions about the scenario.   
Rukia would end up hating herself if she hurt Orihime and the rest of her friends.
Ichigo would end up hating himself if something he does causes pain for others.
No possible good could come out of this pairing.
 


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         No offense,but all this arguments are absolutely ridiculous.There's no way that their friends would hate Ichigo,just because he fell in love with Rukia,and not with Orihime.Ichigo himself could not do anything about it either.People fall in love,it's the heart that chose,who will be the one for them.Besides,their friends would know that,forcing Ichigo to chose Orihime will just make things worse.Ichigo,Rukia,and Orihime,have a bunch of wonderful friends,aside from that,any rational minded person was capable of knowing,that a PERSON'S FEELINGS are not something that they should interfere.Let's put it this way,imagine you were Ichigo,and you fall in love with Rukia,but because Orihime loves you as well,you shouldn't be with Rukia,or your friends will be angry with you.,means,you don't have the right to fall in love with anyone else,except Orihime,because she loves you romantically,but unfortunately,no matter what you do,you can't feel the same way towards her?.How would you feel?If you follow what other people wants you to do,then you will have no difference from a corpse that loses it's life.

         This arguments didn't prove anything about Ichiruki's negative outcome,in case that they fall in love with each other.This argument just shows Orihime's selfishness,and their nakamas narrow minds.


Would an Orihime X Ichigo Pairing be bad?

The only possible person that would get hurt is Ishida - if he even does have feelings for Orihime.


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          If Rukia loves Ichigo as well,she'll be hurt too.If Rukia is hurting,Renji would be hurt as well.Byakuya may not want it either,and so as Hanataro,Kyone and Sentaro,and not to forget about Keigo.But then again,this things doesn't really matter at all,and is absolutely impossible to happen,because,they are not narrow minded persons.

Rukia would easily step aside. To her, being close to Ichigo is enough - just like being close to Kaien was enough. I think this would be Ishida’s path too. Both would easily step aside and allow them to be happy, if this is what they both Ichigo and Orihime want.

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            The highlighted part...Isn't that should be the same thing that Orihime should do,in case that Rukia and Ichigo fall in love with each other?Seems like the author knew this reality as well.But for some obvious reason,he/she didn't say the same thing for the Ichiruki pairing.I suppose he/she should say that,Orihime will step aside,and will be happy enough being Ichigo's nakama,and allow them to be happy if that is what they want.

Possible good that would come out of this. Ichigo could repair that emotional hole in his heart and remember what its like to be unconditionally loved by someone. 

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            Rukia is the one who stopped the rain.The rain that represents Ichigo's loneliness,the emotional hole in his heart.Rukia is the one that repaired it,not Ichigo because of Orihime's unconditional love.Rukia being the ray of light for Ichigo (according to KT),means that she's the one that keeps him on the right track,the one that gives him hope,and strength,simply means that she's the one that fixes his emotional problems.

           This argument can be applied to any pairing concerning Ichigo.The author could have said the same thing for the Ichiruki pairing.Think about it,if Rukia and Ichigo falls in love with each other,that means that Rukia will love him unconditionally for sure,which will make him able to repair the emotional hole in his heart?But for some obvious reason,he/she never said this for them (Ichiruki).

Orihime would be finally able to confess and not feel so emotionally repressed either. Like with Ichigo, maybe this could help open her powers more. 


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           Orihime will confess,that's for sure.When she does confess towards Ichigo,she'll be able to move on,whether her feelings will be reciprocated or not.She'll be free from thinking as to what will happen if he finds out about her true feelings for him.Only after that confession,she'll definitely know what to do next,based from Ichigo's response.

 
Possible bad: When Ichigo is with Orihime, he tends to lose sight of his tasks. During battles, if she’s in danger, his first response is to run to her. Over all, its not a bad thing but its not good either.
It would upset IchiRuki fans - Not a good enough reason...


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            Unfortunately,I couldn't help but wonder,why is it that,when it was happening with the Ichihime,there's nothing bad about it,but when it was happening with the Ichiruki,people will say that it was putting Ichigo in the bad light,you know?prioritizing Rukia...


Choosing between Rukia and Orihime?


Personally, I like both characters. But, taking into consideration the group dynamic and the place Ichigo’s emotions seem to radiate toward, I can only choose Orihime for Ichigo and Renji with Rukia. They create stronger lasting bonds that way. 

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            Unfortunately,this is only based from the author's own perspective of a long lasting bonds,which is obviously the opposite of what was going on in the manga. 
 

Now, if we’re talking battle strategy, its different. Rukia and Ichigo because he doesn’t feel this need to protect her like he does with Orihime.


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It doesn't seem like that here... 




            I didn't post the other times,since it happened during a battle,and Rukia was in a condition that she couldn't fight an enemy.I post this one,since Ichigo is obviously having a desire to protect her,more than anyone else there,though they were still all in good terms,and haven't faced any enemy yet.



 Renji and Orihime would be a better battle team, because Renji and Rukia work almost the same way Ichigo and Orihime work.


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            Renji and Rukia works and behaves like BEST FRIENDS,so saying that Ichigo and Orihime works the same way as they are (RenRuki),its like you,saying that they are BEST FRIENDS (laughs).



Renji worries too much about Rukia. This also points out that Ichigo loves Orihime and Renji loves Rukia because they have this excessive worry for their female counterparts.


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            The latter is undeniably true,but the first one is absolutely something that I disagree,because Orihime is definitely not the one that Ichigo is worrying the most.Read here
 

Next. Even though Ichigo is a Vizard/Shinigami, he still has a real body and no obligations to Soul Society. He will return to being a human after the story is over - unless his human body gets destroyed!


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           Even if the story has ended,I'm sure Ichigo will remain as a shinigami,or he could have died in the end,and went to the SS,so this is too early to be brought up in a debate. 
 

Rukia is obligated to Soul Society and must return there after the war is over. The only way out is if she runs away again or is granted to become a human (or live in a Gigai) by Soul Society. Doubt this will happen because look what The Vizards, Urahara, Yoruichi, and Isshin had to go through. They all became outcasts. 


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            Everything depends on Kubo's decisions.If Kubo wants Ichigo and Rukia to be together,surely he'll make a way for it to happen,that is something that is not impossible.
 

Orihime is human and will return to the human world - as long as she doesn’t die at the end of the manga.


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            Again,this will only depend on Kubo's decisions.Whether they are Shinigami & Human,or both Shinigamis,both Humans doesn't really matter at all.KT made Isshin and Masaki to be together,a Shinigami and  a Human,because it was his plan,why can't he do something for Ichigo and Rukia,if he wants to bring them together?

Why do fans feel that Orihime and Ichigo are a love match failure?

Because there are more fans that like Rukia better than Orihime. They feel that Orihime is this naive, stupid character who stalks Ichigo. Which is untrue. Rukia actually is the stalker. She’s the one who chases after him, in the beginning, she practically forced her job down his throat. After that, she lives in his closet until she can beg Isshin to stay. 

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            Orihime is definitely not a stalker,but I believe that the author can prove this,even without bouncing the accusations towards Rukia.Rukia is definitely not a stalker either.Rukia needs Ichigo's help,because her powers were transferred to him,and there's almost nothing left to her that can defeat at least a low level of hollows.Also,Rukia didn't forced Ichigo to help her.

Look here..


 
            Rukia will definitely won't come to Ichigo,if she was still capable of doing her job.When she realized that she couldn't do it alone,she came to Ichigo for a help,but he refuses.Then Rukia brought him to that park,and showed him what was going on.She wanted to show Ichigo what will happen,if a shinigami couldn't come to defeat hollows,and save the souls.Then,the decision is still up to Ichigo.Look at her expression when she asked Ichigo if he accepted the duty.Rukia is tensed,she was waiting for his answer,simply means that she isn't forcing him.Read here
 
Orihime pretty much leaves Ichigo alone. He’s offered to walk her home, she said no

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            And she regrets saying NO.This essay is too old,so I'm sure that the author was talking about this one,and not the one that occur in "The Lost Agent Arc" However,she refuses his offer to walk her home at the "The Lost Agent Arc" because she knew that he doesn't even have the ability to fight,if something will happen,since he lost his powers,so it's just the right thing to do.She'll be in a really bad light if she allows him to walk her home.
 
When he ran off to tame his hollow, she let him be until Yamamoto asked that she tell him about the Royal key. When Ichigo was with Shinji, Rukia was looking everywhere for him! 

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            Rukia is just looking for Ichigo,because she was worried about him.Ichigo left without saying a word to anyone,who knows if he was in danger?Orihime knows he was just fine and having a training,because she was able to feel his reiatsu,because she have a similar ability with Hacchi,which prevents everyone's ability to trace him.Besides,even after knowing his location,Rukia stayed outside,and she even stopped Orihime from spilling some information,because she trusted Ichigo.


Orihime’s so-called stupidity is Anime only. In the manga, she is actually the second smartest girl in her class, placing third in the class tests behind Ryo Kunieda.


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             Orihime is not stupid,even in the anime.However,being the second smartest among their class,won't prove anything about being stupid.There are some situations,that a person can be stupid...even the smartest person in the world,one of the aspects that can make them one,is LOVE.


Rukia is more naive than Orihime. She easily falls for traps when Kaien Shiba is involved. Arrancar 9: Who took Kaien’s body, uses it like a weapon against her. She falls for it like a lamb being led to slaughter

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            Rukia isn't wrong when she thought that he was Kaien,because Aaroniero is using his actual body and reiatsu,only the heart wasn't there anymore,the thing that she remembered,and gave her the strength to attack him.Besides,Ichigo also had a difficulty in fighting with GF,because he was using Ichigo's Mom as a bait.Ichigo knew that it was just an image of his Mom,but still,he couldn't cut it.Oh,wait,GF did say that it was his Mom's body and memories as well,just like Aaroniero.GF and Menastacia have similar abilities,the ones who killed Ichigo and Rukia's beloved ones.

 
Like Hinamori, Rukia is a sucker for a pretty face.

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            Now I'm starting to believe,that the author really loves Rukia,no wonder he/she could have say something like this to her.Obviously wearing a grudge towards a FICTIONAL CHARACTER.Sorry for being frank.



Orihime is not so naive. People think because she left with Ulquiorra she’s stupid. In fact, that was a good move. If she battled, she would have died. We see how Ichigo acted when Ukitake said Orihime might be dead in Chapter 238. Ichigo would have raced to Hueco Mundo either way
 
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            The latter proves it,that it wasn't a good move.She thought she could give her friends a longer time for training and preparing for the battle.This only shows that she doesn't trust them,how could she be unable to realize that it would only make them went to a battle,even though they aren't done training?Logically,they will come to rescue her,right away,after hearing the news,that she was gone with the enemies,which is what have actually happened.Read here 
 
Fact is, this bought Soul Society a little more time than having her die. 

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            Unfortunately,that only made everyone to go in the battle,though they aren't finished for their training.Did they wait any further after hearing the news?I was talking about Ichigo and Nakamas.Nope,right?they have decided to come for her rescue,soon after hearing the news (Ishida the most).

 
If she had died, Ichigo would have died as well. Nobody to bring him back from the dead other than his hollow. His hollow would have completely taken over without her there.

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            Actually,she isn't the one who brought him back from the dead,it was his hollow.Read here

And for the record,the hollow have completely taken over him,because Orihime let him reach the condiition of being an irreparably hurt,the time that the hollow said,he'll come back.

Read this part again... 



 

 You think he would change back for Rukia’s sake- hell no. He had already promised to keep Orihime safe, not her. Ichigo’s transformation into Vasto Lorde is based on the promise he made to Orihime.

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            Read the essay that I have posted above,and you'll see that Orihime's cry for help is not the reason why the hollow showed up,means that even if she didn't cried for help,he'll still show up,because Ichigo is going to die.As for his vow to protect Orihime,please read here

            I would like to see a proof that the last statement is actually the basis of Ichigo's hollowfication,make sure it can prove my analysis wrong.If you can provide me a strong proof,then,I'll delete my essay about Ichigo's hollowfication at "The Dome scene"

Or is he/she is talking about this one?




            The moment Ichigo said those words to Orihime,I believe that is one of the proof that the Ichihime's are using,that Ichigo really cared for her the most.This scene was interpreted as Ichigo's vow to protect as well,just like the one that took place at the Punch Down The Stone Circle chapter,because of what Orihime said here...



             However,Ichigo never does that same thing only for Orihime,in fact,he have said the same words for this girl as well...


And also for this certain woman...


             But then again,that was only platonic since it was Rukia,she can never be a candidate for Ichigo's romantic interest,no matter how much it was being emphasized in the story,that Ichigo treats her differently among everyone else.ヽ(´ー`)┌ 

Rukia deserves Ichigo because she changed his life? All she did was open his eyes to the world of the Shinigami. He already attained those powers because of his father. It was already in his DNA! She changed his life by giving her powers which awakened his own. After that, Ichigo came into contact with the Hogyoku through Rukia’s gigai. That awoke the hollow within and made him a vizard.
Because Ichigo’s tainted power kept freely leaking out, Orihime and Sado were affected. In a sense, like Rukia changed Ichigo’s life, Ichigo changed Orihime and Sado’s lives. 
 
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Read here

What it breaks down to is that in the beginning, Rukia was the main female character so fans think she gets dibs.


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            Though,some people is so adamant to acknowledge this argument,it is still one of Rukia's advantage in terms of becoming Ichigo's love interest,since their relationship will definitely have the most development in the story.

Everything after chapter 183 to about chapter 354 is focused on Orihime and Ichigo’s relationship and her rescue.


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            There's no way that it was focused on their relationship.Those chapters are focused on Ichigo's conflicts with his hollow,in any case,please read here

Even after the rescue, Ichigo thinks about her - Chapter 379 - and this is after Rukia is no longer in the picture.

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            Apparently,the author didn't understand that scene.Ichigo is not thinking about Orihime,he is just thinking how cruel the enemies are.He's saying that they are comrades,but when their comrades were defeated and killed,they talk trash about them,instead of getting angry in their behalf.They are not like humans,that's why he mentioned Orihime,he is saying that,even though she isn't one of their comrades,she still feel the pain of seeing them getting hurt.

He doesn’t think about Rukia in the same context as he does Orihime.

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            Ichigo,after his rescue mission for Rukia,have this realization "I remember now,the reason why I wanted to save you so much" 

            This kind of scenes usually happens after a rescue.This shows that the hero have come to realize who is the rescuee for him,or who they are in his/her life,which is commonly having a romantic connotations.KT,didn't finished Ichigo's words,because he wanted to keep it unconfirmed for the readers,but it still shows,that he have a realization,after going through the situation of losing Rukia in is life.On the other hand,Ichigo doesn't have this kind of realization,even after rescuing Orihime,don't you find it something suspicious?Compare the two situations,and the one with Rukia,is actually the one that has the possibility,of having a romantic connotation. 

I have nothing against Ichiruki fans- some of them even admit that the story is really Ichihime! Just certain ones that are blinded by their fandom to see the actual truth bug the crap out of me. I don't even care what fan fic authors write about, I just see Ichi X Rukia as a crack pairing, 


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            After reading everything,I don't think I could agree that the author doesn't really have a problem with the Ichiruki fans,or maybe just the Ichiruki pair?I still have yet to see something that will favor the Ichihime pair.Besides,there are also some Ichihime fans that admit,that the story is really Ichiruki.Based from the way the story goes,as long as Ichigo never showed a romantic interest towards Orihime,it is also a crack pairing,more than how it was for the Ichiruki,since they (Ichiruki) are the main characters of the story.     

    
I like Orihime x Renji pairing for fun. There is nothing wrong with following a certain pairing, 

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            There's really nothing wrong with following a pairing,but I can see that it wasn't the problem,that's why there's a shipping war going on.There's a ship war,because the fans are claiming,that the pairing they support,is the actual thing that have the possibility to prevail at the end of the story.
 
I just hated that live journal mishap that tried to say that Ichihime is an epic fail when they obviously only saw what they wanted to see.

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            Based from what I have read here,the author is also seeing what he/she wanted to see.All the argument that he/she have given so far,are mostly based from his/her own perspective of a romantic story.

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       I'm done with the introduction part,wait for my reply on the next page of this essay.I just want to make clear,that this isn't meant to pick up on anyone in particular,it's just that there are some people who are suggesting me to read this essay,so I thought I should post my opinion about this.I won't mind if they still wanted to stick with this essay's statements and explanations,it's your right to chose,in what to believe.Besides,the truth will always be the one that would prevail,once the story has ended.


NEXT

5 comments:

  1. A fittling reply! You are truly ingenious Miss KawaiChappy, I loved the way you beat the crap out of the illogical points!!!

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  2. Thanks for reading ^.^

    Anyways,I have already written my reply for the 2nd,and 3rd pages,I'm still working on the remaining 17 pages as of now.But,I'm not able to finish them right away,since I am busy.

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  3. When I read the other essay..........I'm sorry if I'm insulting her or him but did s/he read the manga at all?! or have s/he read it without putting his/her shipping googles on? I realize that the essay was meant to be pro-IchiHime but that doesn't negate the fact that when you're doing an essay (especially if your generalizing the other pairing's fandom) you're supposed to be AT MOST unbiased and objective or how else would others believe what you're saying if your arguments are UNbelievable?

    On the other note I thank you kawaichappy-san for refuting that even though I think it's a waste of time (as long as they put their shipping goggles on, and seeing what they only WANTED to see I don't think anything could change their minds). Seriously you're my personal hero now XD....and lastly I hope that not all IchiHimes believe that essay because really....I know they can do better than that (again sorry for being so horribly mean).

    p.s. S-s-s-seventeen?! there's more of that?!...


    Actually, I'm reading it now (in hopes that I was too hasty with my conclusions but so far.....I'm laughing my ass out XD) *sigh*...good luck on the next pages that you'll be doing and I'm cheering for you kawaichappy-san!! :D

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  4. I know that it may just a waste of time,if I am trying to convince them.However,my reason for writing my opinion about it,is to let them know that I am,indeed reading what they suggest me to read.It's for them to know that I am not ignoring their opinions ^.^ and that,I definitely read every single word there.

    Thanks for reading,and taking the effort to comment.I really appreciate it.Actually,I'm starting to lose my interest on this topic,and been thinking to stop writing.However,when I look at everyone's comments,I thought at least I'll try to finish this somehow (I'm talking about the Ichiruki vs Ichihime ship war)^.^'>

    Actually,I'm the type of a person who only stayed interested into something,for about a week or months.My sister even loves to take a guess about "how long am I going to stay interested into something".Be it a celebrity (which is very rare to happen),a fictional character,TV shows,movie,etc.Because when I lose interest in them,I can even throw away everything that I collected about them (laughs),no hard feelings at all.They really laugh so hard,every time I does something like that.So far,their limit for BLEACH pairing debate is 1 year,and I have already exceeded that.Well,basically because,I took time reading the manga,since it was at the near beginning of "The Lost Agent Arc" when I started reading it.This is also the reason,why anyone cannot call me a shipper,since I am not even a fan.I just love to analyze stories.

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  5. Wow, okay, I'm amazed! I think I already reviewed on this, but I will again! I don't see my review on it, haha! XD That girl needs to get her head turned around. She's obviously fitting in her own opinions in her essay, and it's really pissing me off. I hope she sees this essay, and realizes how her arguments are STUPID. Sorry for being harsh, but the essay you replied to gets me going :P

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